EverlastEvil
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Approved House Paege by EverlastEvil
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Amazing work Ever! It's so great to have someone so keen to kick off one of Riverrun's regional projects 
This has my seal of approval - I'd like to ask at least one of the approving mods for the project overall to second it. Ric DutchGuard
Following that, you have my blessing to get cracking!
This has my seal of approval - I'd like to ask at least one of the approving mods for the project overall to second it. Ric DutchGuard
Following that, you have my blessing to get cracking!
EStoop
Knight of Fairmarket
Hey Everlast, great plans!
I noticed the plans also include (or seem to include) the valley north of the castle.
It has been agreed the Blackwood Vale will, at some point, be moved and switched with the Whispering Wood in order to give it a bit more space, including hollowing out some of the hills west of the Whispering Wood.
Part of this move would be to update the hills in the area, and in order to give enough breathing room I'd suggest to keep clear of the valleys and hills around the current Blackwood Vale and Whispering Wood.
I thought there was a map somewhere with the plan, but I can't find it.
An indication of the space can be seen when activating the borders layer on the dynmap.
I'd advice against building in this area since it's likely to be uprooted in terraforming for the Blackwood Vale:
I noticed the plans also include (or seem to include) the valley north of the castle.
It has been agreed the Blackwood Vale will, at some point, be moved and switched with the Whispering Wood in order to give it a bit more space, including hollowing out some of the hills west of the Whispering Wood.
Part of this move would be to update the hills in the area, and in order to give enough breathing room I'd suggest to keep clear of the valleys and hills around the current Blackwood Vale and Whispering Wood.
I thought there was a map somewhere with the plan, but I can't find it.
An indication of the space can be seen when activating the borders layer on the dynmap.
I'd advice against building in this area since it's likely to be uprooted in terraforming for the Blackwood Vale:
EverlastEvil
Emissary
Hey Estoop, I do see your rise for concern here. Although I don't really see an issue rising with such small area (brown), I'm totally fine with staying out of it.
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Since I did plan a lumber camp nearby, I'm ok with placing it elsewhere in the project, north of Burhgate and west of Paege castle seems ideal due to forest density.
Since I did plan a lumber camp nearby, I'm ok with placing it elsewhere in the project, north of Burhgate and west of Paege castle seems ideal due to forest density.
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EStoop has a valid concern but I think we should be able to work on Paege without interfering with the area earmarked for the Blackwood Vale. It would probably be best to avoid doing anything more than some light terraforming in the hills (as this may be lost), but the flatter grassy areas should avoid future alteration.
Ark and I briefly discussed Paege's political position en route to Raventree Hall; I think a good headcanon explanation is that the Paege's swear allegiance to the Iron Throne as Tywin crosses the river, likely after having seen the huge Lannister host march on Riverrun and hearing that most of the Paege forces had been wiped out or scattered. This would explain why Garrett Paege is a squire to Jaime in A Feast for Crows.
Tywin is in a rush. He leaves Riverrun to Jaime, then, not wanting to waste time or men on laying siege to the Paege keep, he accepts Paege's surrender and oath and moves very quickly towards the Blackwood Vale. Canon indicates Tywin travels from the Battle at Golden Tooth (Cat 8, AGOT) to the Crossroads (Tyrion 7, AGOT) in under three weeks capturing Raventree Hall, Harrenhal, and Darry along the way (Wayfarer's Rest likely also); his march across the Riverlands is a blitzkreig, he wouldn't waste any time if he didn't have to.
For the above reason I think many of the houses at Paege might be abandoned or burned down in the chaos. I don't think there needs to be any evidence of an attack on the castle/keep, but I'm happy to leave those decision to Ever.
I also approve
Ark and I briefly discussed Paege's political position en route to Raventree Hall; I think a good headcanon explanation is that the Paege's swear allegiance to the Iron Throne as Tywin crosses the river, likely after having seen the huge Lannister host march on Riverrun and hearing that most of the Paege forces had been wiped out or scattered. This would explain why Garrett Paege is a squire to Jaime in A Feast for Crows.
Tywin is in a rush. He leaves Riverrun to Jaime, then, not wanting to waste time or men on laying siege to the Paege keep, he accepts Paege's surrender and oath and moves very quickly towards the Blackwood Vale. Canon indicates Tywin travels from the Battle at Golden Tooth (Cat 8, AGOT) to the Crossroads (Tyrion 7, AGOT) in under three weeks capturing Raventree Hall, Harrenhal, and Darry along the way (Wayfarer's Rest likely also); his march across the Riverlands is a blitzkreig, he wouldn't waste any time if he didn't have to.
For the above reason I think many of the houses at Paege might be abandoned or burned down in the chaos. I don't think there needs to be any evidence of an attack on the castle/keep, but I'm happy to leave those decision to Ever.
I also approve
EverlastEvil
Emissary
That’s some nice headcanon there Dutch, thanks for filling me in and thx to both for the approvals!
and thx to both for the approvals!