Block Change Request: Arrow, Sword and Bow blocks

Request: Arrow, Sword and Bow blocks

Request Type: General Addition

Try to describe all workarounds and associated issues that make it necessary to add this block in your eyes.
We currently do not have a good way to represent bows and bow-related professions such as fletchers.

Also an un-broken version of the sword block would be very useful for barracks and other defensive builds.

Types of evidence to support your request: Historical, Canon

Historical Evidence
Swords were the main weapon in medieval combat

What do u think arrow slits were used for?

Canonical Evidence
all the swords

the Tarlys are known for their swords and archery skills. Screen Shot 2021-01-25 at 4.37.02 AM.png

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This is so general that I wouldn’t know where to start. Plus, there’s a massive potential for this to outdate every armory if we don’t have a good policy of adding all these blocks in place.

Moozipan made a whole range of weapon item textures back in the day that could easily be added as items. For physical blocks however I‘d rather add something related to the storage of any type of weapons or ornamental arrangements but not all kinds of types of weapons.

Maybe a special block that can be visually equipped with severally items like the item frame? Not sure if that’s the best approach.

attached is a screen of moo‘s selection.
 

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To represent trades better I‘d go for their tools or specific steps in the process rather than their products. Been thinking about tool kit blocks a while ago but only made a draft surgeon kit. Used a flat horseshoe-type block for it but I‘m not sure if that’s the best way to implement something like this. Tools could lie around, hang from a wall or be in a case or drawers.
 
“Plus, there’s a massive potential for this to outdate every armory if we don’t have a good policy of adding all these blocks in place”.

I don’t think out dating would be too much of an issue as updating barracks would only require adding a few of the new blocks as opposed to adding palette blocks like timber which require updating the whole building. Also now seems like the best time to add these blocks before the Redkeep, City walls and Goldcloaks of KL get updated and the defenses of Oldtown and the Arbor are done.

“For physical blocks however I‘d rather add something related to the storage of any type of weapons or ornamental arrangements but not all kinds of types of weapons.”

I suggest only adding bows and swords as they’re the most common and are pretty universal meaning they work anywhere. Also there is a precedent for these kinds of blocks as we already have the broken sword block, so it makes sense to add its un-broken counterpart.

“Maybe a special block that can be visually equipped with severally items like the item frame? Not sure if that’s the best approach.”

Item frames would not be a good way to do it since they are notoriously laggy, being entities
 
yeah, I don't disagree with any of what you said. Except, it's OK for a broken/ rusty sword to be lying around somewhere. However, for a functional sword, I'd argue the likelihood is low that it just sits somewhere.

In everyday use, would they not be carried on the person and only put down in their sheath? And if they are unsheathed would they not most likely be mounted as some sort of display?

I think it would be good to collect some authentic pics of what an armory did actually look like.

I have the following ideas:
- Bow: Simple mid-sized wooden bow. States: Either a) leaning or b) flat on the ground or c) both or d) both but as a single block with smart CTM/ blockstate logic that determines the state depending on there being full blocks around it?
- Sword: Simple mid-sized iron sword in its sheath/scabbard. Same states as above.
- Mounted Sword: Display swords - Crossed rapiers seems to be a common theme, but I could also do distinct pieces like generic greatswords or specific greatswords for each family.
- Cabinet or holder for spears. Not sure yet about the exact design here.
- Arrows. A bucket of arrows should be doable. But I could also do an arrangement of arrows sticking in the ground. Or a quiver hanging or standing?
 
yeah, I don't disagree with any of what you said. Except, it's OK for a broken/ rusty sword to be lying around somewhere. However, for a functional sword, I'd argue the likelihood is low that it just sits somewhere.

In everyday use, would they not be carried on the person and only put down in their sheath? And if they are unsheathed would they not most likely be mounted as some sort of display?

I think it would be good to collect some authentic pics of what an armory did actually look like.

I have the following ideas:
- Bow: Simple mid-sized wooden bow. States: Either a) leaning or b) flat on the ground or c) both or d) both but as a single block with smart CTM/ blockstate logic that determines the state depending on there being full blocks around it?
- Sword: Simple mid-sized iron sword in its sheath/scabbard. Same states as above.
- Mounted Sword: Display swords - Crossed rapiers seems to be a common theme, but I could also do distinct pieces like generic greatswords or specific greatswords for each family.
- Cabinet or holder for spears. Not sure yet about the exact design here.
- Arrows. A bucket of arrows should be doable. But I could also do an arrangement of arrows sticking in the ground. Or a quiver hanging or standing?
I’m curious to see what you come up with! I would appreciate it if you did do the arrows sticking out of the bucket like the picture I originally posted in my request, kind of like the candle altar block or iron throne blade
 
- Mounted Sword: Display swords - Crossed rapiers seems to be a common theme, but I could also do distinct pieces like generic greatswords or specific greatswords for each family.
I've seen a few guests asking where Dawn is in Starfall and being able to depict that would be very nice both for us and for visitors I believe. Even Ice could maybe be placed in the room of Ilyn Payne, I think it would be a nice touch, as he keeps the sword for a while.

Also, the Wiki of Ice and Fire says something interesting when speculating about their size:
"The Valyrian steel greatsword Ice is described as taller than an adolescent Robb Stark. Based on this, an "educated guess" is that the sword is about 1.65 meters long (or 5 feet and 5 inches). However, as Valyrian steel is considerably lighter than common steel, Valyrian greatswords are likely larger in general."
 

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Request: Arrow, Sword and Bow blocks

Request Type:
General Addition

Try to describe all workarounds and associated issues that make it necessary to add this block in your eyes.
We currently do not have a good way to represent bows and bow-related professions such as fletchers.

Also an un-broken version of the sword block would be very useful for barracks and other defensive builds.

Types of evidence to support your request: Historical, Canon

Historical Evidence
Swords were the main weapon in medieval combat

What do u think arrow slits were used for?

Canonical Evidence
all the swords

the Tarlys are known for their swords and archery skills. View attachment 7090

File(s) attached
Were swords really the main weapon? I thought pikes/spears/some sort of poleaxe was more common? at least among the common foot soldier, I'm not sure though
 
Thats a good idea honestly.

On the arrow point, if they were just the feathers rather than the points of arrows, it would make it possible to both have an armoury/fletcher fully stocked with them in a basket or barrel as well as having the embedded line of arrows after a battle. In fact, having lines of arrows could let us demonstrate our knowledge of ASoIaF battles and provide interesting details as to where they've ended up in the placement. (I'm mostly thinking Redgrass Field and can't remember a main ASoIaF battle with heavy use of archers)
 
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