Thanks Johan, I remembered you saying that the lands were going to change. Ringfort wise, I was building off the examples in Wull. Maybe if I expand the radius to 12-15 with 3 block walls will it be big enough for houses to fit in the interior. All good to wait. secondary wall, like this image, which is more like celtic oppida https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/1b/8a/c61b8afb95ab86ce109c25c45530c7f2.jpg almost completely gone, stone mostly gone and slight raise. Then with stone ring fort more like ringforts in Britain. I had some kind of head canon for the fort itself. That why it was abandoned was due to being not as good a defensive position as the hillside of current Knott. It could have been the previous location of House Knott before the Knotts grew in power a bit and were able to build the castle, at which point it was turned into a holdfast and not manned as strongly as it should have been. This allowed for a power bid for the territory and one of the other clans invaded and captured the fort. It changed hands several times but the enemy were never able to man enough men within it to hold the fort, it was always more of an opportunistic move to try and intimidate the Knott. The walls were a somewhat easy source of stone for Knott[the village], it didn't have to be quarried and was not too far away. Thus it became more and more derelict and was buried partially under earth as Knott became able to defend against the particular invader far better and expanded its borders. This relies on the fort being very ancient, 500+ at least. perhaps 1000+ thoughts?